She shouldn't act surprised when..

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Originally Posted by R13

The whole reason it was posted is that she's should know better than to act that way with her and her family being under the national spotlight. Just saying that when the Palins do shit like this, they can't cry about it when the media says something about it and call it "attacking". :rolleyes:

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So now you're saying you didn't call her a little bitch? Ok glad I imagined that.

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Originally Posted by Rocky

talking about palin lying yet you shook hands and acted super proud of it with a man who deliberately lied to his country about something he definitely shouldnt have been doing anyway.

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I didn't act anything, I'm damn proud of meeting one of the five remaining Presidents(including Obama) and one that's ranked 13th greatest of all time. One I grew up with and look up to, plus it's the POTUS. Extremely proud to have met him. Comparing him lying about getting a damn blowjob, which most great Presidents have(Jefferson, FDR, Eisenhower, Kennedy, Clinton to name a few) to a quitter gov. from Alaska who uses fear mongering like most in her party...to split an entire nation. Really the two aren't comparable, no one gave a damn about Clinton's bj's.

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Originally Posted by Milk3

So now you're saying you didn't call her a little bitch? Ok glad I imagined that.

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What the hell? Didn't say that at all, called her a little bitch, not taking it back because she's a little bitch. Cleared that up for you, that's what I think she is, which I had no problem with her before this.

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Originally Posted by collegetrumpet2010

I don't care. But if he's gonna jump someone about how they behave on facebook then he needs to look at his own. Just saying

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Um no, celebrities are held to a higher standard and should not be spitting out homophobic slurs.

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Do you mean sexual or abstinence?

If you look at it in light of her sexual experience, it's not so bad. You know how close this issue is to me with a family member. That's all I'm saying.

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Yes, it is bad, because she said that abstience is not realistic, but when a company comes willing to pay her, she will go back on her words and promote something she obviously does not stand for just to collect the paycheck.

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Give me direct, exact quotes.

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I gave you an EXACT, direct quote. She said that abstinence is, and I quote, "not realistic at all".
Bristol Palin: Abstinence for all teens 'not realistic' - CNN

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And you jump on Willow Palin for calling a guy a fag and yet you make more outlandish comments. Interesting.

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Dude do you realize that saying "f@g" is a homophobic slur, the same as calling a black person the N-word, calling a Hispanic a "sp!c", etc...?
Theres a huge difference between calling someone a media whore, a person willing to sell out her principles for money, and using a slur that demeans a whole set of people.


Plus you refuse to see the big issue. We are not famous people. We are not held to a higher standard. Our families do not go on television and preach about how great they are, how their morals are strong and that they are shining beacons for American morality and righteousness, that they are better than other people because they are religious and have better morals, then have their kids getting pregnant at 16, or having their daughter using homophobic slurs.

DJ, its just like Willow Palin called a guy the N-word. Do you think that would be okay? Would you be cool with Willow Palin calling some guy a ni**** then her mother getting on TV acting as if the media is attacking her?

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Originally Posted by Rocky

talking about palin lying yet you shook hands and acted super proud of it with a man who deliberately lied to his country about something he definitely shouldnt have been doing anyway.

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Searching in Iraq for WMds? :D No wait that was jr that did that , dad was "no new taxes"- seems as if all of them will say anything to get in office and the ole hand in the cookie jar.

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Originally Posted by Biggin

Yes, it is bad, because she said that abstience is not realistic, but when a company comes willing to pay her, she will go back on her words and promote something she obviously does not stand for just to collect the paycheck.

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Do you think the earth will ever be rid of racism and bigotry? No, it's unrealistic to think that could happen, but you will still promote it because it's the right thing.

I also think that abstinence is unrealistic, ON THE WHOLE, but if her message gets out to a few people, and keeps them from having a kid underage, isn't it worth it?

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Originally Posted by Biggin

Dude do you realize that saying "f@g" is a homophobic slur, the same as calling a black person the N-word, calling a Hispanic a "sp!c", etc...?
Theres a huge difference between calling someone a media whore, a person willing to sell out her principles for money, and using a slur that demeans a whole set of people.

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Kind of like when r13 deameans a whole set of people by using the word "redneck" anytime someone disagrees with him. I mean really, whats the difference? He uses that word as a racial slur and knows he can get away with it.

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Originally Posted by Shooter

Do you think the earth will ever be rid of racism and bigotry? No, it's unrealistic to think that could happen, but you will still promote it because it's the right thing.

I also think that abstinence is unrealistic, ON THE WHOLE, but if her message gets out to a few people, and keeps them from having a kid underage, isn't it worth it?

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C'mon, thats not the issue nor is it relevant at all.

She went on CNN and said abstienence did not work and it was unrealisitc, but when a company asks her to promote it for a paycheck, she throws what she supposedly stands for under the bus for the money. If someone offered you a bunch of money to go on tv and support Obama or the healthcare plan, would you do it?

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Kind of like when r13 deameans a whole set of people by using the word "redneck" anytime someone disagrees with him. I mean really, whats the difference? He uses that word as a racial slur and knows he can get away with it.

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thats a stretch, redneck does not have the connotations that the other word has, and numerous people on here have bragged about being rednecks. I can show you the posts. Thats not the same at all.
Ive heard numerous people, on here as well, that are proud to be "rednecks" (their words)
but ive never heard a gay person say he was proud to be a "f@g"

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Originally Posted by Biggin

thats a stretch, redneck does not have the connotations that the other word has, and numerous people on here have bragged about being rednecks. I can show you the posts. Thats not the same at all.
Ive heard numerous people, on here as well, that are proud to be "rednecks" (their words)
but ive never heard a gay person say he was proud to be a "f@g"

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ive heard gay people call themselves f@gs, so since a few do it does it make it ok to use it? i get offended when people call me a redneck even if some are proud of it. apples and oranges.

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Originally Posted by R13

Comparing him lying about getting a damn blowjob, which most great Presidents have(Jefferson, FDR, Eisenhower, Kennedy, Clinton to name a few) to a quitter gov. from Alaska who uses fear mongering like most in her party...to split an entire nation. Really the two aren't comparable, no one gave a damn about Clinton's bj's.

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he was almost impeached over it, id say that more than a few people gave a damn about it.
a lie is a lie is a lie, its going to happen all over politics and nothing will change that, all of them are crooks and thats just the nature of it.

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Originally Posted by Biggin

C'mon, thats not the issue nor is it relevant at all.

She went on CNN and said abstienence did not work and it was unrealistic, but when a company asks her to promote it for a paycheck, she throws what she supposedly stands for under the bus for the money. If someone offered you a bunch of money to go on tv and support Obama or the healthcare plan, would you do it?

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So you are saying she supports underage sex? No, she simply said it was unrealistic to think it won't happen. That doesn't mean you can't promote abstinence. I just don't see how anyone can fault someone for trying to teach people to learn from her mistakes, paid or not.

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Originally Posted by Biggin

thats a stretch, redneck does not have the connotations that the other word has, and numerous people on here have bragged about being rednecks. I can show you the posts. Thats not the same at all.
Ive heard numerous people, on here as well, that are proud to be "rednecks" (their words)
but ive never heard a gay person say he was proud to be a "f@g"

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And what connotations does it have? When r13 uses it, he means to say this set of people are hate filled bigots, war mongers, white supremist. Pretty demeaning to someone who might describe themselves as a redneck, but just meaning country, bass fishin, deer huntin good ol boys.
Kind of like the difference between me saying the N-word, or black people calling themselves that.
You've never heard a gay person refer to themselves as f@g? you must be joking.

I'm definately not defending her calling someone [email protected] theres really no difference in what r13 does with "redneck". He uses it as a demeaning word, simple as that...but it is let go over and over.

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Originally Posted by Rocky

he was almost impeached over it, id say that more than a few people gave a damn about it.
a lie is a lie is a lie, its going to happen all over politics and nothing will change that, all of them are crooks and thats just the nature of it.

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Ha do you even know what the rules are for an impeachment? He had no chance of being impeached, the GOPers tried their best though, America didn't even really give a damn - if I'm notmistaken his approval rating only went up and it obviously didn't effect historians views of him. Big difference from what he did and what Palin is doing.